tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8749644478681930620.post8412523901621240172..comments2024-03-06T04:57:58.658+00:00Comments on Rowan Tarot: Just (You do it to yourself)Carlahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03494373028041693775noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8749644478681930620.post-90929789686138770672013-05-20T09:24:49.331+01:002013-05-20T09:24:49.331+01:00Hmm, the pain body as our old tapes and patterns, ...Hmm, the pain body as our old tapes and patterns, now that I get. It's interesting, too, because my mum as a body psychotherapist says that massaging a particular body part can bring up specific pain memories/patterns...Inner Whispershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04577110987784585986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8749644478681930620.post-21531002101007335332013-05-19T16:09:33.157+01:002013-05-19T16:09:33.157+01:00Having a particularly vicious pain body, and havin...Having a particularly vicious pain body, and having always had fairly raging PMT, I can say that for some of us hormone fluctuations make us highly susceptible to pain body triggers. For me, I know it's the pain body when my thinking, words and behaviour fall into well-worn grooves of dysfunction. If something, anything, triggers you to spiral into old tapes and patterns, that's the pain body, as far I'm concerned. So I see what he's saying here. (If you wanted to see premenstrual, you should have lived with me when I was about 29 or 30 years old. Dear God.) <br /><br />The first couple of times I read Tolle, I completely rejected the entire pain body theory. But one day, I realized the truth of it. It makes perfect sense to me now. That doesn't mean I don't keep getting blind-sided by it. Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03494373028041693775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8749644478681930620.post-25980317235912882462013-05-19T11:31:43.421+01:002013-05-19T11:31:43.421+01:00Interesting card, isn't it? I think I've ...Interesting card, isn't it? I think I've mainly identified with the person behind the tree, not standing up for their green shirted friend when they could/should. Being too afraid or too lazy to do what it right. I found your suggestion about this card representing our own negative patterns really interesting - something to ponder. <br /><br />However, reading that Eckhart Tolle link, I didn't like him saying women are particularly taken over by their pain body when they're premenstrual! Other than sometimes craving chocolate more, neither I nor anyone I've ever lived with or spent time with has ever identified me as being "pre-menstrual", so maybe I have a different take on it, but to me it just smacks of sexism in different words...Inner Whispershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04577110987784585986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8749644478681930620.post-31373389496569207122013-05-18T07:01:43.286+01:002013-05-18T07:01:43.286+01:00Thanks, Siddaleah! I think it's hard to strike...Thanks, Siddaleah! I think it's hard to strike a balance between being forgiving of ourselves and assertive with our boundaries and actually being completely self-centered. Quite easy to slip from one healthy stance into the territory of the other more harmful stance, I think. They say take care of yourself first -- you know, secure your own oxygen mask before helping others. But sometimes we might find ourselves securing our own oxygen mask and then forgetting about others. Or even somehow criticizing them because they are still fumbling with theirs instead of putting them on the way we did! (It's early to be chasing metaphors, but I think you might get what I mean...)Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03494373028041693775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8749644478681930620.post-78646635764765407972013-05-18T01:13:46.651+01:002013-05-18T01:13:46.651+01:00Very interesting! I hope you're not being hard...Very interesting! I hope you're not being hard on yourself. We all have behaviors which affect others negatively, but I know some people who have no desire to acknowledge those or to try to improve. Good on you for being self aware!Siddaleahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12374026627556447276noreply@blogger.com